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Posted on 2007.07.30 at 22:57


So if murder is illegal, then the perpetrator of the crime should be punished under the law, right?

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laura
lola_joan at 2007-07-31 03:22 (UTC) (Permanent link)
i can't stand to watch the whole thing, so tell me: did any of them come up with the only comment that could be considered even remotely sensible, if you insist on being a "pro-lifer" - the law would punish the doctor, not the woman.
Simply Stan
paperpath at 2007-07-31 13:06 (UTC) (Permanent link)
Not one of them ever mentioned punishing the doctor, and though all of them seemed to agree that abortion was murder, penalties ranged from "counselling", "being prayed for" to being treated with love. (Harsh stuff indeed)

One interviewee did take a stand however, suggesting that yes, women who abort should face imprisonment, the term of which being the "same as anybody would get for killing anybody else" and thinks that life imprisonment "would be a possibility". Crazy, yes; but she was the least hypocritical of the lot.

(Anonymous) at 2007-07-31 15:15 (UTC) (Permanent link)
astonishing.
laura
lola_joan at 2007-07-31 15:15 (UTC) (Permanent link)
astonishing.
_r_e_q_u_i_e_m_ at 2007-07-31 11:12 (UTC) (Permanent link)
i DO understand what they are trying to get at, b/c where they are coming from is a moral standpoint [albeit not mine] rather than a legal one; they want the women to think "correctly" [their way, of course] and think that if it's made illegal no one will do it b/c theyd have to "think about it" and have a hard time seeking it out. the flaw is, and always has been with anti-choice groups, is that they think a woman who is getting an abortion hasnt thought about what shes doing, doesnt hurt or feel about it, and doesnt carry it with her for the rest of her life in some way or another.

Simply Stan
paperpath at 2007-07-31 13:29 (UTC) (Permanent link)
They can't have it both ways.

If they want abortion to be made illegal they can't waive the punishment associated with the "crime". No punishment means no crime. No crime means that they don't have grounds upon which to stand their position.
_r_e_q_u_i_e_m_ at 2007-07-31 17:53 (UTC) (Permanent link)
no theyre totally nuts, im just saying, i understand what it is theyre TRYING to say, just they cant say it well.
halfwayhippie
halfwayhippie at 2007-07-31 21:07 (UTC) (Permanent link)
i couldn't stand to watch this. for my own reasons. abortion is a moral issue, in my opinion. making it a crime would be horrible.
Simply Stan
paperpath at 2007-07-31 21:30 (UTC) (Permanent link)
Agreed. I can't imagine your government ever making it a crime. It would never fly.

(Haven't seen you in a long long while. Welcome back!)
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